Saturday, April 14, 2012

Thompson/Center Renegade Black Powder Rifle


Yesterday I took a vacation day, went down to my club, and shot the Thompson/Center Renegage rifle which I'd picked up earlier in the week.

T/C helped give the modern muzzleloading scene a big boost when they introduced their Hawken in 1970. While it isn't an accurate replica of an original Hawken*, it was a well made traditional rifle that sold very well for several decades. T/C now mostly makes inlines, but the Hawken is still available from them.

In 1977, T/C came out with the Renegade as a lower-cost alternative to the Hawken. Instead of the Hawken's brass furniture, it had blued steel. It also lacked a nosecap on the stock and instead of a crescent buttplate, had a shotgun butt. This makes it more comfortable to shoot with heavy loads.

General specs of the Renegade were cap or flint ignition, .50 or .54 caliber with a 1:48" rifling twist, and a 26" long octagonal barrel measuring 1" across the flats. Overal weight was around 8 - 9 pounds. It was available fully finished or as a kit.

My father had a .54 caliber Renegade when I was growing up. T/C discontinued the model a few years ago (I believe in the wake of a factory fire). Recently, I'd come to have a hankering for one and periodically would check Gunbroker.com to see if any left hand .50s were available. Occassionally I'd see one but other things had to take priority.

Well, I had last Monday off and took a drive up to Dixon's Muzzleloading Shop. As I was looking around, I spotted a lefty Renegade on the shelf. It was a late production model in .50 and looked barely used. I spoke to Chuck Dixon about it and he dropped an LED borelight down the barrel so I could see how it looked. It was spotless. The nearly new condition and the very reasonable $220 price tag meant that it came home with me.





As a late production gun, my Renegade has T/C's "Quick Load" muzzle. Basically, they coned the muzzle at the factory to make it easier to start a ball, or especially conicals. It has fiber optic sights although I don't know if they are factory original. It also has studs for quick detatchable sling swivels, which I also don't know if they are OEM.

My goal yesterday was to get the rifle sighted in at 50 yards and hopefully find a decently accurate load. I first shot it with 60 grains of Goex 2Fg black powder, a patched .490" round ball, and CCI No.11 caps. My patches are pillow ticking and lubed with Track of the Wolf's Mink Oil Tallow.

Recoil with the 60 grain load was very mild, not much more than a .22 Magnum. The Renegade's heavy weight and broad, flat buttplate made it very comfortable to shoot. I bumped the powder charge up to 70 grains, which would be a better hunting load. The recoil increased a little but not too much.

Accuracy with the PRB was only so-so, about 4" at 50 yards. T/C's barrels have a 1:48" twist, which is commonly called a compromise. It'll shoot either patched roundballs or conicals (Minie Balls or Maxi Balls) with usable hunting accuracy. I would like to halve these group sizes, though, which will require experimenting with ball diameter and patch thickness. I will have to buy a box of .495" balls and see if they give better accuracy. (In contrast, my Cabela's Traditional Hawken made by Investarms with the same twist shoots .490" round balls just fine with a 60 grain load and pillow ticking patches.)

I also shot a 5 round group with some Hornady Great Plains bullets. These are 385 grain lead hollowpoint slugs, which a small cavity in the base. Essentially, the GPB is a modernized Minie Ball. These shot a little better than the PRBs, with my shots going into about 3". I used the same powder charge -- 70 grains -- and let me tell you, recoil was a lot more noticeable with the heavy bullets. But they ought to really lay the smackdown on any North American game.

The coned muzzle really came in handy when starting the GPBs. They slipped in straight with light thumb pressure. They were then easy to seat all the way.

As expected, the Renegade was reliable. I did have one failure to fire, and it happened on my very first shot. Before I shoot a percussion gun I always swab the bore with a dry patch and pop one or two caps on the nipple to clear out any oil. Well, this time something must've gotten stuck in the flash channel because the charge didn't go off until the second cap. This was a first for me.

Overall, I'm pleased with the Renegade. It's a nice addition to my collection.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Congrats on your renegade, it looks great. I have and still use my renegade. It was a gift at the age of 14, bought new in 1984. This gun shoots extremely well using 90 to 120 grain of ffg goex black powder. In fact, its the envy of several hunter in our camp. Good luck with your renegade.

Anonymous said...

Have you tried a heavier charge since the original post?
I have the3 same rifle, in left, just an older one, no QLA.
It's sad TC stopped making traditionals.

Dave Markowitz said...

Ugh. Haven't even shot the rifle again.

Joe said...

back in the 70's My Dad bought my brother and I 50 cal Hawkins, he got a 54 cal Renegade. I liked the Renegade in .50 better than the Hawkin, and finally got one. I shoot prb's and since the late 70's have never found a better load in either rifle than a .490 rb with pillow ticking, and crisco, with 75 gr FFFG and a CCI #11 cap.

Anonymous said...

Just found a .50 Cal Renegade at a gun store... It came with a scope... Thought the price was good so I grabbed it... Never shot black powder before so this will be an experience for me... Looking forward to it... Going to have a Smith look at it first before I take it to the range...

Anonymous said...

I have a Renegade with the .54 and a swap out smoothbore .56. I also have a Hawken in .50 both are good guns but the Renegade is a better deer gun.
I prefer to shoot Roundball with the .56 as the rifling for the rifles isn't the best for anything. With the smoothbore .56 shooting a thick patched .535 roundball and 90 grains of fffg it hits dead on in the kill zone when I shoot a Bambi. He goes down with in 50 yards of where he is shot every time and often it just plants the deer, dead on the spot.
It took me 1 afternoon of shooting to find the sweet load with the .56 and over a week to find the .54 rifle sweet spot, and to be honest...at 50 yards and closer I get better groups with the .56 thus it is my go to hunting 'rifle'. {As the TC .56 Renegade barrel has a rear sight it is classified as a 'Smooth Rifle'.}